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>> -- a millionaire's tax. is that what democrats are looking at? >> there are fantasies in both camps. on the one side, it is raising their rates on everybody who makes $250,000 will solve the problem. and the other side is the program that charles outlined. and then there is a third fantasy that the lobbying class in washington, which is much stronger than ever before, will simply be dead and not do anything to try to keep the loopholes they now have, or the preferences day out. >> will the democrats agree to a higher -- above $250,000? >> i do want to make a note aboutcharles's statement one half of washington being liberal. i thought that was a concession. >> if i were to think about the groupies, it would be three- quarters. >> we will talk about the groupies in the military later. i do want to say that nina is absolutely right. the reality is that you cannot do this painlessly. at the same time, all of the tribute that charles paid, and so deservedly so, to the reagan- o'neill plan had an element to that was truly an acceptable to every conser
>> -- a millionaire's tax. is that what democrats are looking at? >> there are fantasies in both camps. on the one side, it is raising their rates on everybody who makes $250,000 will solve the problem. and the other side is the program that charles outlined. and then there is a third fantasy that the lobbying class in washington, which is much stronger than ever before, will simply be dead and not do anything to try to keep the loopholes they now have, or the preferences day out....
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taxes ride. rule every american is expected to feel the pinch. we'll break down the numbers on the latest proposals and see who maintains what depending on what kind of deal is reached. and are you not one of the so-called rich. no one company or governing body runs the it net. that helped the worldwide interest neat to grow in the way it has to spur democratic movement. a u.n. summit next week could put a little known united nations agency in charge worldwide web. and countries like china, russia, and iran are actively lobbying for new global rules that can allow them to, for example eavesdrop at will or sensor content. rick gold stein is the director of the project. it's no surprise china and iran and russia would love to control the internet. about it's a surprise they are going to have some conference with the u.n. in dubai next week. we are attending and this is going to be the topic? >> looking at the history of the united nations and how it triumphed on free speech. i'm not surprised. we h
taxes ride. rule every american is expected to feel the pinch. we'll break down the numbers on the latest proposals and see who maintains what depending on what kind of deal is reached. and are you not one of the so-called rich. no one company or governing body runs the it net. that helped the worldwide interest neat to grow in the way it has to spur democratic movement. a u.n. summit next week could put a little known united nations agency in charge worldwide web. and countries like china,...
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tax issue. if you are a small business owner and you have a gadget to sell out of your garage and you work hard, you don't the money to comply with the different state laws across the country. whatever you call them. >> bob: we are not alone. a lot of republican governors are for taxing the internet. >> eric: in new jersey, i believe you don't pay sales tax on clothes. add sales tax on clothes there? >> brian: absolutely. >> eric: that is because you're from new york. >> dana: it should be fair. should you tax food? chocolate or not? it goes on and on. >> bob: if you talk about fair, how is it fair that people that go to the brick and mortar stores that pay taxes and other people on the internet don't. >> dana: we will explain it in the break. we have to go. major power grab in egypt. susan rice blames the intel community. the anti-muslim video that we talk, he will speak for the first time. the foreign policy roundup is next. in [ male announcer ] are you considering a new medicare plan? then y
tax issue. if you are a small business owner and you have a gadget to sell out of your garage and you work hard, you don't the money to comply with the different state laws across the country. whatever you call them. >> bob: we are not alone. a lot of republican governors are for taxing the internet. >> eric: in new jersey, i believe you don't pay sales tax on clothes. add sales tax on clothes there? >> brian: absolutely. >> eric: that is because you're from new york....
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but all of the other tax changes would be for next year's taxes, not this year's taxes. so you don't see that immediate impact. and then the stupid across-the-board cuts, congress should revisit that. we could find reductions of $100 billion that aren't across the board where you cut things that are useful and working well as much as things that are losers and go away. >> so under your theory and that of several ores, there's not as you referred to an economic calamity. but you and i both know for example wall street. we keep hearing these business leaders and so many others are nervous and we could see an immediate reaction there if some type of deal is not reached before january 1st. >> sure. the millionaires and billionaires, they've got a sweet deal now. they will make a lot of noise to say, raise my tax rates and i'll stop investing. of course, these are the same people who spent $400 million, $500 million to get a president hired that would cut their taxes. >> it would certainly affect it if the white house is saying you'll go off this cliff. you're looking at them
but all of the other tax changes would be for next year's taxes, not this year's taxes. so you don't see that immediate impact. and then the stupid across-the-board cuts, congress should revisit that. we could find reductions of $100 billion that aren't across the board where you cut things that are useful and working well as much as things that are losers and go away. >> so under your theory and that of several ores, there's not as you referred to an economic calamity. but you and i both...
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the atm tax is going to get a patch. we know we're going to see benefits given to our -- unemployment benefits given and veteran benefits gimp. it seems like this year we have a nice new fun name. i know you hate it steesh, but the fiscal cliff. we put that scary name on it as if that's going to motivate our elected officials. all i see is a press release them saying they're going to fight for us and until the end of the day they're not going to do anything until we see a nice countdown clock. >> as per zblushl but the republicans need that clock more than the democrats do, don't they? >> they do. the fact is we need to find a path way to yes and i think the sooner we do it the better it is politically to move off. >> yeah. no. i mean i was just going to say, republicans -- the problem here for republicans is they're trying to get off this 22-year rae fusal to raise taxes, and think to cut any kind of a deal, they almost -- even if the deal -- the parameters are in place they have to go to the very edge. we held out as l
the atm tax is going to get a patch. we know we're going to see benefits given to our -- unemployment benefits given and veteran benefits gimp. it seems like this year we have a nice new fun name. i know you hate it steesh, but the fiscal cliff. we put that scary name on it as if that's going to motivate our elected officials. all i see is a press release them saying they're going to fight for us and until the end of the day they're not going to do anything until we see a nice countdown clock....
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what's the one tax rate going up january 1st that no one's talking about? the payroll tax. remember that? it was cut from 12 to 10%. i gather the republicans have no problem -- i don't know -- but letting working class and middle class americans have a 2% tax increase. that's not currently the republican position that the payroll tax cut should be extended. they're happy to let it go because god forbid they cut entitlements for wealthy seniors. we have a collusion among the elites of both parties. the one tax that goes up january 1, if there's a deal s payroll tax, which i think is wrong. republicans have a opportunity to be champions of the working class. >> kirsten, some democrats are saying let's go over the cliff. everybody's tax rates are going to go up and then the president in january can go to congress and say now it's 39.6% and whatever it is for middle class and i'll present a plan that will cut the tax rates of 98% of people, are you prepared now, when the rate is already up, to oppose that? >> the problem with that plan is it's dangerous because we don't know ho
what's the one tax rate going up january 1st that no one's talking about? the payroll tax. remember that? it was cut from 12 to 10%. i gather the republicans have no problem -- i don't know -- but letting working class and middle class americans have a 2% tax increase. that's not currently the republican position that the payroll tax cut should be extended. they're happy to let it go because god forbid they cut entitlements for wealthy seniors. we have a collusion among the elites of both...
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when you throw in the higher state taxes in cities and states promising millionaire tax hikes, not just affecting if millionaires. that brings us to 60%. that is 15 points higher. this isn't specious math. this is logical math. courtesy of the republican strategy hellbent on ignoring that for fear of getting it on rates. the republicans risk being snookered by the democrats who know the opponent's number. blinded in the grand old quest to keep rates moving up, they don't see the other side just taken them to cleaners. we are going to debate this tonight. you can watch other choices. but you can still watch him and watch me. i am a nice appetizer then. that's how i look at it. appetizer. if you did online shopping i'd be a good buy. you know a lot about the cyber bye. >> demand it! >> no. >> you were shopping. >> i was not. not doing anything. >> you were. >> was not. >> that is a laptop.
when you throw in the higher state taxes in cities and states promising millionaire tax hikes, not just affecting if millionaires. that brings us to 60%. that is 15 points higher. this isn't specious math. this is logical math. courtesy of the republican strategy hellbent on ignoring that for fear of getting it on rates. the republicans risk being snookered by the democrats who know the opponent's number. blinded in the grand old quest to keep rates moving up, they don't see the other side just...
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the white house is saying, if these tax cuts go away for the middle class and taxes rise and the amt patch goes away and taxes rise on the middle class, it would dramatically slow growth in gdp next year and would mean $200 billion less in consumers' pockets. what is this right out of the white house report? this reduction of $200 billion is approximately four times the total amount of the 226 million shoppers they spent on black friday weekend last year. they're trying to show you just how important all that money is in the economy if you have those taxes rise on the middle class. it's really, john, the latest from the white house. it comes on the same day warren buffett writing in the "new york times" in an op-ed saying rich is $500,000 a year, and let's tax them. let's have a 30% minimum tax for the income above $1 million of rich people. look what he said here. the "forbes" 400, wealthiest individuals in america hit a new group record. $1.7 trillion, more than five times the $300 billion total in 1992. he says you know, my gang has done pretty well. so leave the middle class alon
the white house is saying, if these tax cuts go away for the middle class and taxes rise and the amt patch goes away and taxes rise on the middle class, it would dramatically slow growth in gdp next year and would mean $200 billion less in consumers' pockets. what is this right out of the white house report? this reduction of $200 billion is approximately four times the total amount of the 226 million shoppers they spent on black friday weekend last year. they're trying to show you just how...
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instead of not raising taxes let's just talk about how much we're going to raise taxes, so it appears for the most part now conservatives are looking at changing some of the things they talked about and pledged when they were running for office and look this is a bigger issue to me. it is not necessarily about grover norquist or a pledge and what you run on as you head to congress. some of these speeches and we have all heard them and been to the rallies. they make promises that are virtually impossible to keep and that's the problem with the governance, the mind of not moving the ball forward in the current congress. you can't make promises you can't keep. these types of i will never do this and always do that, that's a bad way to start things off and you're seeing that now because they're having to change the rhetoric. >> i want to play sound from grover norquist. let's play it and i want to talk to you about it on the other side. take a listen. >> no pledge taker has voted for a tax increase. you have had people discussing impure thoughts on national television. we would highlight
instead of not raising taxes let's just talk about how much we're going to raise taxes, so it appears for the most part now conservatives are looking at changing some of the things they talked about and pledged when they were running for office and look this is a bigger issue to me. it is not necessarily about grover norquist or a pledge and what you run on as you head to congress. some of these speeches and we have all heard them and been to the rallies. they make promises that are virtually...
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between the expiration of the bush tax cuts and higher taxes, for obamacare, the top capital gains rate will jump from 15% to 23.8, and listen to this: the top rate on dividends will jump from 15% to 43.4. how are, mr. sweeney, investors reacting to those possible, very stiff tax hikes? >> well, to that point, you want some clarity and whether the clarity comes in your personal economy at home, whether, you are a ceo or cfo of a corporation you want clarity how to spend the cash you have accumulated on your balance sheet or, if you are the government you want to figure out how to impact the spending you have at the federal level as well. americans are looking for clarity, so they can make the decisions, and, in terms of purchasing short-term christmas gifts for the next selling season or whether, again, if you are a ceo and trying to think of investing in a plant or hiring new people -- >> if i may, sir, specifically, if you have a stock and you see your capital gains, if you sell the stock, could go from 15% to 24%, at the -- on january 1st, are some people cashing out now? >> well, wh
between the expiration of the bush tax cuts and higher taxes, for obamacare, the top capital gains rate will jump from 15% to 23.8, and listen to this: the top rate on dividends will jump from 15% to 43.4. how are, mr. sweeney, investors reacting to those possible, very stiff tax hikes? >> well, to that point, you want some clarity and whether the clarity comes in your personal economy at home, whether, you are a ceo or cfo of a corporation you want clarity how to spend the cash you have...
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a larger cost on a smaller tax base, and, arguably, less affluent communities. man: sewickley township is a rural farming community, however, herminie itself would be considered to be the downtown area of the township. it's the agways, the auto-parts store, the bank. it's your typical small-town village. man: people think that rural areas are pristine and perfect and everybody has a nice, simple life. that's, uh, not exactly the situation here. when you come into town in the summer, you know you're coming to herminie. woman: the aroma in 90-degree days... can sometimes just want to knock you over. woman: we have water. we have power, we have gas, but we have no sewage. i guess when they laid out the town years ago, it just all went into the pipes and straight into the "crick." sabljak: i've lived here 43 years in the same house. when i moved here, they told us that sewage would be here shortly. and here it is 43 years later and we still don't have it. my husband and i went to the first meeting. he always said, "boy, i'll never see it in my lifetime." well... my
a larger cost on a smaller tax base, and, arguably, less affluent communities. man: sewickley township is a rural farming community, however, herminie itself would be considered to be the downtown area of the township. it's the agways, the auto-parts store, the bank. it's your typical small-town village. man: people think that rural areas are pristine and perfect and everybody has a nice, simple life. that's, uh, not exactly the situation here. when you come into town in the summer, you know...
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should taxes go up. the discussion is how do you do it? >> exactly. and, listen, i think that to the extent we are just talking right now, i don't think that talking hurts. but should this become -- should this come in play, little there will be a lot of people on the left who will not be very happy. i think in some ways it is apples and oranges. i think what you're hearing is we will do this, however, you need to do the separate thing over there. i don't think social security has anything to do with it. >> let's talk raw numbers here. at the end of the day you have to find 218 house members. and in the past john boehner has said and, oh, by the way, his election is after the fiscal cliff. that happens a couple days after the fiscal cliff. so all of this maneuvering is complicated. to get to 218 he has said he wants a majority of the majority, which is approximately 120 republicans, so then you have to find some nearly 100 democrats to do this as well, and if that has social security and medicare in it,
should taxes go up. the discussion is how do you do it? >> exactly. and, listen, i think that to the extent we are just talking right now, i don't think that talking hurts. but should this become -- should this come in play, little there will be a lot of people on the left who will not be very happy. i think in some ways it is apples and oranges. i think what you're hearing is we will do this, however, you need to do the separate thing over there. i don't think social security has...
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the use of tax havens to avoid paying taxes in this country is an outrage. we can end it. there's tens of billions of dollars a year involved in closing those kinds of offshore loopholes. >> i'm going to leave it there. senator levin, thank you for being here. hope you had a good holiday. >>> i want to turn to the republican side. peter king of new york. congressman, hope you had a good holiday. good to see you this morning. >> i had a great holiday, especially because notre dame beat southern cal. >> my poor step dad. he is not so happy this morning. >> i don't care about him. >> let me continue on the issue of taxes because this is important. and as i say, it's going to be the defining issue. you hear republican saxby chambliss say it's not going to govern what i do. norquist saying he promised the people of georgia that he would reform the government rather than raise taxes. where do you stand on the pledge? can this be overcome? with revenues be raised? >> first of all, i agree with chambliss. a pledge you signed 20 years ago, 18 years ago, is for that congress. for in
the use of tax havens to avoid paying taxes in this country is an outrage. we can end it. there's tens of billions of dollars a year involved in closing those kinds of offshore loopholes. >> i'm going to leave it there. senator levin, thank you for being here. hope you had a good holiday. >>> i want to turn to the republican side. peter king of new york. congressman, hope you had a good holiday. good to see you this morning. >> i had a great holiday, especially because...
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but at least graham is voting to raise taxes on the wealthy. right? wrong. >> raises tax rates will hurt job creation so i agree with grover we should not raise rates. i will violate for the good of the country only if democrats will do entitlement reform. >> so he won't raise tax rates and entitlements need to be gutted. but that's more like it. let's see some more brave talk from the gop. >> i'm not obligated on the pledge. there's a menu of options on the revenue side and on the entitlement side and as long as there are two parties that are willing to solve this problem, this is a very easy thing to do technically. what it takes is political courage. >> guess what? that political courage doesn't include ding, ding, ding, higher tack rates for the top 2%. but don't pay any attention to that. republicans want us to know that what's really important is that they are rejecting the norquist pledge. >> the lot that has been said about this pledge and i will tell you, when i go to the constituents that re-elected me, it is not about that pledge. it really
but at least graham is voting to raise taxes on the wealthy. right? wrong. >> raises tax rates will hurt job creation so i agree with grover we should not raise rates. i will violate for the good of the country only if democrats will do entitlement reform. >> so he won't raise tax rates and entitlements need to be gutted. but that's more like it. let's see some more brave talk from the gop. >> i'm not obligated on the pledge. there's a menu of options on the revenue side and...
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grover norquist's tax pledge could be history. and all eyes are now focusing on house republicans as talks to avoid going over that so-called fiscal cliff are picking up steam. joining me now, mark halperin, senior political analyst for "time" and msnbc and ruth marcus, columnist and editorial writer for the "washington post." to you, mark, what is your read about what we've been hearing the last couple of days about grover norquist, the pledge and how much running room the speaker does have to b negotiating a deal. >> i did a spit take with my fruity pebbles watching "morning joe" because eric cantor's tone was unlike anything i've ever heard. his office is saying oh, no, he's against raising marginal rates, but it's clear that in the scheme of things, the biggest piece is does john boehner have enough running room to strike a deal involving some new revenue. i still am of the belief that the vote in the house, which will be a cliff hanger no matter what happens amongst the leaders in the white house, it will be a tough vote. i t
grover norquist's tax pledge could be history. and all eyes are now focusing on house republicans as talks to avoid going over that so-called fiscal cliff are picking up steam. joining me now, mark halperin, senior political analyst for "time" and msnbc and ruth marcus, columnist and editorial writer for the "washington post." to you, mark, what is your read about what we've been hearing the last couple of days about grover norquist, the pledge and how much running room the...
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i will not raise tax rates. i will cap deductions and long story short for the good of the country only if democrats will do entitlement reform. >> all the president that i have served with including reagan, clinton and the first george bush moved away from the position of no additional tax. >> they all added revenues to deficit reduction. >> without a bipartisan plan the bush-era tax cuts are expected to retire jarn 1st and spending cuts may kick in as well. they anticipate a second face- to-face meeting with president obama as soon as this week. >>> also in washington republican senator john mccain backed off from fiery criticism of un un ambassador susan rice about the attack in libya. >> i think she deserved the ability to explain herself and her position as she said, but she is not the problem. the prose problem is that the president of the united states, who in a debate with mitt romney said that he had said it was a terrorist attack. he hadn't. >> senator mccain threatened to block susan rice's nomination
i will not raise tax rates. i will cap deductions and long story short for the good of the country only if democrats will do entitlement reform. >> all the president that i have served with including reagan, clinton and the first george bush moved away from the position of no additional tax. >> they all added revenues to deficit reduction. >> without a bipartisan plan the bush-era tax cuts are expected to retire jarn 1st and spending cuts may kick in as well. they anticipate a...
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otherwise taxes will go up and major taxes will be triggered. senators lindsey graham and saxby champ blins are suggesting they would be willing to break their no tax pledge to get a budget deal done. today is day six of the cease-fire between israel and hamas and delegations from both sides are in cairo to meet separately with representatives from egypt which helped broker the cease-fire along with the united states. hamas says the latest round of talks will focus on border crossings and easings of the economic blockade of gaza. >>> the bodies of a northern california couple have been recovered after they were swept out to sea trying to save their dog. the family was playing fetch with their dog north of eureka on saturday. the dog chased after a stick and got pulled into the ocean by eight to ten foot waves. the boy and his parents followed the dog into the water. >> horrible story. >> feeling lucky? no grand prize winner saturday night. the jackpot for wednesday's powerball drawing is up to $425 million. that number could go even higher depen
otherwise taxes will go up and major taxes will be triggered. senators lindsey graham and saxby champ blins are suggesting they would be willing to break their no tax pledge to get a budget deal done. today is day six of the cease-fire between israel and hamas and delegations from both sides are in cairo to meet separately with representatives from egypt which helped broker the cease-fire along with the united states. hamas says the latest round of talks will focus on border crossings and...
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revenues and raising tax rates. i get it. but do your constituents get it? >> isn't this where i'm supposed to confess my sins to my preacher. >> when you have four people dead, how do you call that hype? >> how many security contractors died in iraq. do you know? >> i don't. >> as u.n. ambassador, she has an obligation not just to be a puppet. >> when i see this focus on what was essentially a small fire fight, it's impossible to figure out what happens on them sometimes. >> she could conceivably get your vote. >> the emphasis has been extremely political probably because fox was operating as a wing of the political party. >> tom ricks, thank you for joining us. >> as far as young women are concerned, i can state my position on abortion. other than that leave the issue alone. >> 20 hail marys, 20 our fathers. ja let's get to our fanl. ana marie cox is a correspondent for "the guardian," and msnbc political analyst karen finney. karen, we just heard senator john mccain a moment ago in "top lines" saying, okay, from
revenues and raising tax rates. i get it. but do your constituents get it? >> isn't this where i'm supposed to confess my sins to my preacher. >> when you have four people dead, how do you call that hype? >> how many security contractors died in iraq. do you know? >> i don't. >> as u.n. ambassador, she has an obligation not just to be a puppet. >> when i see this focus on what was essentially a small fire fight, it's impossible to figure out what happens on...
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its taxes for everybody. you cannot bring down the debt with a $5 trillion in your accumulated over the last four years to pay it down. you need structure readjustment with the entitlements, also, with social security, medicare, medicaid, also, and, also, the tax reform. the republicans have talked about revenue coming in from growth jobs and getting the economy going. when you get the economy going, you get more money coming into the irs and treasury/ when more americans are at work, they are paying. i don't believe it -- it is , woodymr. norquist said, it is a pledge to the people. some of those senators wanting to raise -- wanting not to raise taxes, that pledge, they knew what would happen to them, they would get run out of state. first i want to see president obama's cards on the table. host: jerry is up next in st. charles, missouri. good morning. caller: one of the things i would like to talk about is the waste in government. i see it continuously in ads on. on a completely off as far as a meter for yo
its taxes for everybody. you cannot bring down the debt with a $5 trillion in your accumulated over the last four years to pay it down. you need structure readjustment with the entitlements, also, with social security, medicare, medicaid, also, and, also, the tax reform. the republicans have talked about revenue coming in from growth jobs and getting the economy going. when you get the economy going, you get more money coming into the irs and treasury/ when more americans are at work, they are...
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they want to raise taxes and republicans don't want to. they are willing to cap certain deductions. >>> and perspective police officers, you can start applying for jobs at the san francisco police department this morning and they will start accepting applications for entry level police officers. eligible application cans have to be at least 20 years old, have a valid california driver's license and high school diploma or equivalent. it will end on friday december 7th and the starting pay for a san francisco police officer is 88,000 dollars a year. well for the san francisco 49ers there are quarterback questions all over again. it happened for the second straight game for the quarterback and coming up, what coach jim harbaugh is saying about who will be his starter in the future. >>> we have been talking about fog and i'm not sure if there is an incident in south san francisco. northbound at the 380 split, just north of fso, let's head out to our maps and a bicycle is laying on the shoulder and officers are not sure if this was an accident
they want to raise taxes and republicans don't want to. they are willing to cap certain deductions. >>> and perspective police officers, you can start applying for jobs at the san francisco police department this morning and they will start accepting applications for entry level police officers. eligible application cans have to be at least 20 years old, have a valid california driver's license and high school diploma or equivalent. it will end on friday december 7th and the starting...
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taxes rise. martha: even the white house is warning that the uncertainty of a potential tax hike could hurt american retailers during this deholiday shopping season. white house economists saying quote, as we approach the holiday season which accounts for 1/5 of industry sales, retailers can not afford the threat of tax increases on middle class families. bill: as we learn more about what each side is kill willing to concede in this argument president obama meets with leaders later in the week. this morning we'll meet with house majority leader eric cantor live in "america's newsroom.". next hour we talk to him where these negotiations are. how much each side is willing to give up and what they want in return. ultimately will they get a deal? eric cantor coming up next hour. martha: it is all in the language and semantics of these discussions. as u.s. lawmakers continue all this wrangling over some kind of budget deal we work towards here at home, european lawmakers are meeting today on their fin
taxes rise. martha: even the white house is warning that the uncertainty of a potential tax hike could hurt american retailers during this deholiday shopping season. white house economists saying quote, as we approach the holiday season which accounts for 1/5 of industry sales, retailers can not afford the threat of tax increases on middle class families. bill: as we learn more about what each side is kill willing to concede in this argument president obama meets with leaders later in the week....
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but not raising taxes. lindsay graham goes on to something else that he throws out here. >> i agree with we shouldn't raise rates, but i think grover is wrong. what do you do with the money? buy down debt and cut rates to create jobs but i will violate the pledge, long story short for the good of the country, only if democrat will do entitlement reform. >> bill: oh, peter you listen to what these people are saying that's why the media has it all wrong. they are falling for this republican line of crap. republicans lost this election. this was mitt romney's deal. and president obama said we have to have an balanced deal we're going to cut spending to the bone, but you have also got to get rid of those bush tax cuts for the wealthiest of americans, and put it back where it was under president clinton, the greatest economic growth in our lifetime. americans went with president obama's idea. it's now time for republicans to accept this is what the americans want. but instead this is more republican propaganda,
but not raising taxes. lindsay graham goes on to something else that he throws out here. >> i agree with we shouldn't raise rates, but i think grover is wrong. what do you do with the money? buy down debt and cut rates to create jobs but i will violate the pledge, long story short for the good of the country, only if democrat will do entitlement reform. >> bill: oh, peter you listen to what these people are saying that's why the media has it all wrong. they are falling for this...
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if an agreement is the not reached by the end of the year, a series of tax increases and spending cuts will automatically kick in. lawmakers in both major parties say they're willing to compromise. >> when you're $16 trillion in debt, the only pledge we should be making to each other is to avoid becoming brief and republicans should put revenue on the table. >> the big questions are weather republicans are open to some forms of tax increases and whether democrats will consider cuts o to entitlement programs. >> a san francisco couple challenge of the defensive marriage act may be one of several the u.s. supreme court considers this week. the justices will decide whether to hear an appeal from the defenders of the prop 8, the initiative banning gay marriage. they're expected to meet this week to decide which cases it will hear next we're. >>> time for health watch this morning, it's 6:19, it appears childhood injuries related to inflatable bouncers are on the ride. that's according to a study published in the journal of pediatrics. bouncers and moon walks are popular at parties but it c
if an agreement is the not reached by the end of the year, a series of tax increases and spending cuts will automatically kick in. lawmakers in both major parties say they're willing to compromise. >> when you're $16 trillion in debt, the only pledge we should be making to each other is to avoid becoming brief and republicans should put revenue on the table. >> the big questions are weather republicans are open to some forms of tax increases and whether democrats will consider cuts...
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. >> they have to go up either real tax rates or effective tax rates. second we have to close significant loopholes. jon: bret baier is the anchor of special report. maybe we can get an explanation from you. the republicans are talking about raising revenue but not raising tax rates. how do they do that? >> reporter: basically they close tax loopholes, they put a cap on deductions. in other words for high income earners let's say the cap was $50,000 you would take in deductions, they don't specify what specific deductions it would be but that is the cap of tax deductions you could take and there by after that point you don't get any more deductions, so the amount of taxes you pay goes up. now this is not new, jon, this is what really mitt romney and paul ryan were running on, as they talked about it they got hammered again and again for not being specific on what tax deductions and loopholes were going to close. but this was the line for the republican standard bearer, the candidate. so when you hear these senators and congressmen talking about that and
. >> they have to go up either real tax rates or effective tax rates. second we have to close significant loopholes. jon: bret baier is the anchor of special report. maybe we can get an explanation from you. the republicans are talking about raising revenue but not raising tax rates. how do they do that? >> reporter: basically they close tax loopholes, they put a cap on deductions. in other words for high income earners let's say the cap was $50,000 you would take in deductions,...
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republicans are resisting the idea that inleasing tax rates on the wealthy will steer the country away from the fiscal cliff even though suspects insist it will. >> i would be very much opposed to raising tax rates, but i believe that we can close a lot of lop holes. >> they have to go up, real or effective tax rates, there are ways of doing this and secondly, we have to gross loopholes. >> lindsey graham is okay with new revenue and willing to cap deductions to get it, but only if democrats agree to reform entitlements like social security and medicare. >> i don't expect the democrats to go for premium ouci do expect them to adjust these entitlement programs before they bankrupt the company. some entilement reform is okay with illinois democratic senator dig durbin, but thinks that social security should be left alone. >> social security does not add one penny to our debt. not a penny. it's a separate funded operation and we can do things and i believe we should, smaller things played out long-term that give it solvency. >> and congressman peter king says nobody will get all they want
republicans are resisting the idea that inleasing tax rates on the wealthy will steer the country away from the fiscal cliff even though suspects insist it will. >> i would be very much opposed to raising tax rates, but i believe that we can close a lot of lop holes. >> they have to go up, real or effective tax rates, there are ways of doing this and secondly, we have to gross loopholes. >> lindsey graham is okay with new revenue and willing to cap deductions to get it, but...
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or effective tax rates. there is ways of doing that. secondly, though, we've got to close significant loopholes. >> bottom line, getting back to the report, the president is asking congress it act now specs tend the tax cuts for the middle class. they say the holiday season is not a time to threaten middle class pocketbooks. back to you. >> steve: thanks very much. the white house wants all the people who voted for barak obama to flood congressmen with e-mail and also with video messages via youtube saying why we should raise taxes on the rich. >> gretchen: so it's mainly for conservative democrats and to sway some republicans in those districts. we asked what you thought about this. will it change members of congress' mind? here is marge, cut all loopholes, subsidies and reduce spending equally but do not raise taxes. >> steve: here is a tweet from heather. it would say do your job, pass a balanced budget like required by law. no more closed door secret tax meetings. >> brian: more e-mails and tweets coming
or effective tax rates. there is ways of doing that. secondly, though, we've got to close significant loopholes. >> bottom line, getting back to the report, the president is asking congress it act now specs tend the tax cuts for the middle class. they say the holiday season is not a time to threaten middle class pocketbooks. back to you. >> steve: thanks very much. the white house wants all the people who voted for barak obama to flood congressmen with e-mail and also with video...
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exactly. >> it's not raising taxes. it is not raising the rate of taxes. it the is just cutting the -- the deduction for capping emissions on your jet. >> stephanie: i think the good news is the president has cut through that [ bleep ] he said if you come to me and say can we kind of do this and close the loophole and something that's not exactly a tax increase. he said no. we're wise to what you're talking about. >> that's the softening of rhetoric you're seeing on the right is in response to a president that now really has nothing to lose. so why not -- so why not at least try to sound reasonable, back off the radical positions. >> stephanie: yep. rudeness, are you delightful. as a post-holiday leftover or fresh. >> thank you. i'll be the stuffing in your turkey sandwich any time. >> stephanie: okay. all right then. all right. >> i'm glad nobody -- >> stephanie: i just made extra gravy. >> stephanie you won't ease miller! [ buzzer ] >> see what you made -- did to me rudeness? >> wow. >> stephanie: what's that about? >> you said it! >> stephanie: i don't
exactly. >> it's not raising taxes. it is not raising the rate of taxes. it the is just cutting the -- the deduction for capping emissions on your jet. >> stephanie: i think the good news is the president has cut through that [ bleep ] he said if you come to me and say can we kind of do this and close the loophole and something that's not exactly a tax increase. he said no. we're wise to what you're talking about. >> that's the softening of rhetoric you're seeing on the right...
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gains tax rate. you know what all of it is? all of it is about can they govern? can they govern? can we be governed? can the people in washington, d.c., in the house and the senate and the president, can they govern? >> they have to. >> well, they have to. they absolutely have to. >> just to make a point for those who thought that the health care reform law was historic, many people -- i actually assume that most of the five people at this table think that it's a shocking thing that america is the most powerful country on earth before the health care law was passed, had a massive number of many, many millions of uninsured people in the country when every other industrialized country has universal coverage. >> right. we do all agree with that, right? >> one of the more historic things, it's going to move millions of uninsured people into the ranks of the civilized world. >> and as the president promised, also not only is he going to put 30 million people on the rolls for health care, it's also going t
gains tax rate. you know what all of it is? all of it is about can they govern? can they govern? can we be governed? can the people in washington, d.c., in the house and the senate and the president, can they govern? >> they have to. >> well, they have to. they absolutely have to. >> just to make a point for those who thought that the health care reform law was historic, many people -- i actually assume that most of the five people at this table think that it's a shocking...
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there will be lots of tax provisions, including the payroll tax cut, to consider. >> alan krueger, the chairman of the council of economic advisers at the white house, alan, thanks very much for joining us. >> thanks very figure me, wolf. >>> secret confidential information revealed in the confetti at this year evenings macy's's thanksgiving day parade. find out what spectators discovered just ahead. stay with us. you're in "the situation room." . meet the five-passenger ford c-max hybrid. c-max says ha. c-max says wheeee. which is what you get, don't you see? cause c-max has lots more horsepower than prius v, a hybrid that c-max also bests in mpg. say hi to the all-new 47 combined mpg c-max hybrid. until i show them this. the oral-b pro-health clinical brush. its pro-flex sides adjust to teeth and gums for a better clean. the pro-health clinical brush from oral-b. wanted to provide better employee benefits while balancing the company's bottom line, their very first word was... [ to the tune of "lullaby and good night" ] ♪ af-lac ♪ aflac [ male announcer ] find out more at... [ duc
there will be lots of tax provisions, including the payroll tax cut, to consider. >> alan krueger, the chairman of the council of economic advisers at the white house, alan, thanks very much for joining us. >> thanks very figure me, wolf. >>> secret confidential information revealed in the confetti at this year evenings macy's's thanksgiving day parade. find out what spectators discovered just ahead. stay with us. you're in "the situation room." . meet the...
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. >> his power comes from this tax pledge. the last thing that he can afford to see more republicans peel off. if they do, then he can't get the next person to sign that pledge. >> tomorrow on "starting point" we're going to be talking to race car driver danica patrick and star of "pretty little liars." cnn newsroom with carols can to casse tell low begins now. >>> horror in bangladesh. two giant clothing factories there go up in flames. they might have made the clothes that are in your closet right now. thousands of workers protest the deaths of their colleagues. were safety warnings ignored? >>> republican rebellion? lindsey graham the latest lawmaker to buck a powerful gop lobbyist and his anti-tax pledge. we'll have the view from the edge of the so-called fiscal cliff. >>> one of the most recognizable voices in hollywood lends his voice to a pro-same-sex marriage ad. >> freedom, justice and human dignity have always guided our journey toward a more perfect union. now across our country, we are standing together for the rig
. >> his power comes from this tax pledge. the last thing that he can afford to see more republicans peel off. if they do, then he can't get the next person to sign that pledge. >> tomorrow on "starting point" we're going to be talking to race car driver danica patrick and star of "pretty little liars." cnn newsroom with carols can to casse tell low begins now. >>> horror in bangladesh. two giant clothing factories there go up in flames. they might have...
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and if this fiscal cliff is allowed to happen on january 1, your taxes, my taxes, everybody's taxes go up. and on that point, let's continue. top of the hour, i'm brooke baldwin. i want to begin with the fiscal cliff. because other news here, you have republican senator saxby chambliss, a two-term conservative from the red state south, but just this past weekend, the tea party nation website labeled him, i'm quoting, worthless and a liar. what did he say to deserve these words? he said he's willing to break the no tax pledge that he made when he first ran for office. and guess what? now he has company. fellow republican senators lindsey graham and bob corker say that under the right circumstances, they too are willing to break ranks. what is the republican world coming to? john avalon, straight to you, cnn contributor, writer for daily beast newsweek. i want to get your reaction to the news we heard from jay carney, we now know the president has spoken by phone over the weekend with boehner and mcconnell. might this be progress? >> yes, it might be progress. that's a good thing. you go
and if this fiscal cliff is allowed to happen on january 1, your taxes, my taxes, everybody's taxes go up. and on that point, let's continue. top of the hour, i'm brooke baldwin. i want to begin with the fiscal cliff. because other news here, you have republican senator saxby chambliss, a two-term conservative from the red state south, but just this past weekend, the tea party nation website labeled him, i'm quoting, worthless and a liar. what did he say to deserve these words? he said he's...
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so if they don't act, everyone will be owing more taxes. that could affect the spending habits on some people. >> they are not spending like they would because they still don't know what will happen. >> and congress, they only have 35 days now to come to an agreement on the deficit reduction. if they don't, then the automatic tax hikes will be taking effect on january 1. >>> one bay area hospital is demanding to be reimbursed by the los angeles dodgers for the care they gave to brian stowe. the giant's fan who was brutally beaten outside the dodger's stadium a year and a half ago. they join us from the general hospital. how much money are you talking about here, brian? >> good morning to you. yeah, we're talking about $1.4 million seeking reimbursement from the l.a. dodgers. they went to the bankruptcy court recently in an effort to seek permission to pursue that reimbursement from the dodgers. stowe was brutally attacked in the parking lot while watching the home opener. since then they had to put the bill for the medical care. the hospita
so if they don't act, everyone will be owing more taxes. that could affect the spending habits on some people. >> they are not spending like they would because they still don't know what will happen. >> and congress, they only have 35 days now to come to an agreement on the deficit reduction. if they don't, then the automatic tax hikes will be taking effect on january 1. >>> one bay area hospital is demanding to be reimbursed by the los angeles dodgers for the care they...
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it simply is a tax. people can say it's not a tax. it's a tax. they have defined it as a tax. we don't have the ability to redefine the meaning of words around here. and it's a tax and a tax can't originate in the senate. so the house as it's presently written, is likely to object and will object to this, i'm certain. another easily fixed problem in the bill is this: the environment and public works committee brought the legislation up. the question of whether the duck stamp tax should be set by law by congress or given to the member of the present staff to set at whatever level he wants was discussed. and senator boxer agreed with those who shared the view that we shouldn't be delegating the power to an unelected cabinet person to set taxes in the united states of america. you can set duck stamp under this bill at any level he wants to set it at. that's not good. this is constitutional. i really feel strongly about it. congress must never cede its power to tax to a single person not even accountable or any other entity; u.n. or any other entity. the constitution gives congres
it simply is a tax. people can say it's not a tax. it's a tax. they have defined it as a tax. we don't have the ability to redefine the meaning of words around here. and it's a tax and a tax can't originate in the senate. so the house as it's presently written, is likely to object and will object to this, i'm certain. another easily fixed problem in the bill is this: the environment and public works committee brought the legislation up. the question of whether the duck stamp tax should be set...